tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post3145375891162676340..comments2024-03-28T11:53:04.773-04:00Comments on Hamlette's Soliloquy: "The Sun Also Rises" (1957) -- Initial Thoughts and Giveaway!Hamlette (Rachel)http://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-49408285807872543412022-01-19T14:39:56.161-05:002022-01-19T14:39:56.161-05:00No accounting for taste, eh, Unknown? No accounting for taste, eh, Unknown? Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-84554781103991135032022-01-17T16:37:19.070-05:002022-01-17T16:37:19.070-05:00Right! So surprising the Jake thought Pedro was t...Right! So surprising the Jake thought Pedro was the most beautiful boy he had ever seen.. I would swear that there were very beautiful boys in Hollywood who could have played that part, particularly since there was<br />very little acting involved.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15806202988148207261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-76932020636690185372020-10-06T08:30:31.556-04:002020-10-06T08:30:31.556-04:00Unknown, well, you're certainly entitled to yo...Unknown, well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion! I think Tyrone Power looked quite good, but to each their own. I suppose if you're used to him much younger, in his Zorro days, it might be a shock to see him older?Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-91160023695298879142020-10-04T18:19:51.940-04:002020-10-04T18:19:51.940-04:00Power looked bad in this. This should've been ...Power looked bad in this. This should've been made in 1947 or 1948. Would've been perfect. Robert Evans was horrible in his part. Flynn was great. I am not sure about Gardner though. I was never really a fan.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18335260521515560395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-41599975156517493122015-01-02T12:05:25.973-05:002015-01-02T12:05:25.973-05:00Adaptations MUST be different from the books in so...Adaptations MUST be different from the books in some respect -- translating between mediums always involves making changes. I think this one was very effectively done.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-74506921522628963222015-01-02T10:14:55.573-05:002015-01-02T10:14:55.573-05:00You already know I'm not crazy about the book,...You already know I'm not crazy about the book, but I'm with you on the film. I think it was superbly cast...and made a very faithful adaptation (if you accept from the beginning that a film cannot capture everything). Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00466108789532345790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-20940622275730054642014-05-15T09:15:59.190-04:002014-05-15T09:15:59.190-04:00I'm still making my way to all the blogathon e...I'm still making my way to all the blogathon entries too! <br /><br />And yes, Tyrone does show his age a bit here. But his acting more than makes up for it. And Ava is definitely Wow here! Her hair is fantastic, I agree.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-436017693777587632014-05-14T16:12:33.423-04:002014-05-14T16:12:33.423-04:00Hi, Hamlette! I may be a little late, but I really...Hi, Hamlette! I may be a little late, but I really enjoyed your review. I was at first surprised with how Ty aged. But he was perfect in the movie anyway. And Ava, wow. If someday I want to cut my hair short, I want it to look exactly like her in this movie.<br />Kisses!LĂȘhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419693749682458647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-8365414545637532772014-05-07T08:00:55.607-04:002014-05-07T08:00:55.607-04:00Isn't Flynn delightful as Robin Hood? I reall...Isn't Flynn delightful as Robin Hood? I really liked him in <i>The Sea Hawk</i> too, but I've only seen him in 5 or 6 things myself.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-4456369071912150132014-05-06T22:30:38.638-04:002014-05-06T22:30:38.638-04:00this sounds like a very interesting movie and i re...this sounds like a very interesting movie and i really want to see it now! I would love to win this personally because I love Errol Flynn! I have only seen him in Robin Hood and have always wanted to see him in something else! Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14133030879235127425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-43160709826675365392014-05-06T18:41:38.314-04:002014-05-06T18:41:38.314-04:00Yes, from my own historical reading I know how big...Yes, from my own historical reading I know how big a deal anti-Semitism was, and maybe Hemingway was trying to highlight that and get people to realize how often someone's Jewishness was held against them or used as an excuse for their behavior. Or maybe he was just reporting how things were. Who knows.<br /><br />And I did read that about Robert Evans. He named his autobiography <i>The Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-56822605987013727422014-05-06T17:30:09.112-04:002014-05-06T17:30:09.112-04:00Hamlette, I think you're right about forgettin...Hamlette, I think you're right about forgetting about the ages. The Jewish thing is interesting In my own research, I've found that anti-Semitism was rampant and blatant back then everywhere, so I'm not surprised there was a big deal made of it in the book, which I am now confessing I haven't read. As far as Robert Evans, everyone tried to get him replaced, and a big deal was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-88868260694393666112014-05-06T16:49:07.235-04:002014-05-06T16:49:07.235-04:00John Huston would have made a good director for th...John Huston would have made a good director for this, indeed! <br /><br />I think if you forget they're supposed to be in their '20s, it works fine, but that could be just me.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-65189488247803384872014-05-06T16:20:07.779-04:002014-05-06T16:20:07.779-04:00I would have liked this film much more, I think, h...I would have liked this film much more, I think, had it been made 10 years earlier and directed by John Huston, who really had a gift for literary adaptations. I've always thought Ty, Ava and Flynn were just a tad too careworn for their roles - but ten years earlier - perfect. Not to say their acting isn't up to par, all three of them give fine performances.The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-44448430382420797732014-05-06T11:04:33.618-04:002014-05-06T11:04:33.618-04:00Intriguing! I hadn't thought of it that way, ...Intriguing! I hadn't thought of it that way, but repeatedly pointing out that Cohn is Jewish does highlight his status on the fringe of society -- it makes Brett's going off with him a much more daring move, in a way, for one thing.<br /><br />In the movie, they do repeatedly put him on the outside of the group. If everyone's at a table, he's a little apart, or even behind them.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-34426167001086030892014-05-06T11:01:59.528-04:002014-05-06T11:01:59.528-04:00Well, yes, Flynn was mostly playing himself, which...Well, yes, Flynn was mostly playing himself, which made casting him pretty genius since he embodies the character so nicely and lends it some lovely gravitas and self-deprecating humor.<br /><br />I'm so glad the studio didn't feel bound to cast actors who were the right age, as I think the seriousness of the movie really needed more seasoned and mature people in the roles.<br /><br />AndHamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-24625458775052827512014-05-06T10:12:37.593-04:002014-05-06T10:12:37.593-04:00I greatly enjoyed your very perceptive review. I d...I greatly enjoyed your very perceptive review. I disagree that the anti-Semitism in the book is unimportant. I think Hemingway was making a central point about acceptance and nonacceptance in society. As with "The Razors Edge," the screenplay is too timid and the actors too old to be convincing in translating a best-selling book to the screen.<br /><br />BB<br /><br />Barry Bradfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18105274041715996003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-54225195148817786452014-05-06T00:16:35.103-04:002014-05-06T00:16:35.103-04:00I love Tyrone in this role, though the whole cast ...I love Tyrone in this role, though the whole cast is too old. I think it may have been felt that to cast it correctly would have it a lesser film -- it would have starred younger actors who just didn't have the gravitas of Power, Flynn, and the rest of them.<br /><br />I think Errol Flynn was well cast, but I will never see this as any great acting feat. He played himself. <br /><br />The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-57115459631885051002014-05-05T19:34:17.517-04:002014-05-05T19:34:17.517-04:00Thank you and Patty for hosting it!
I know a lot ...Thank you and Patty for hosting it!<br /><br />I know a lot of people who aren't Hemingway fans -- we can still be friends :-) I like his books much better than the movies made from them. In fact, the only movie made from one of his works that I really love is <i>To Have and Have Not</i>, and that bears very little resemblance to the book at all. I haven't seen the Audie Murphy versionHamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-73141636119709858562014-05-05T18:51:26.561-04:002014-05-05T18:51:26.561-04:00Hamlette, thank you so much for this terrific entr...Hamlette, thank you so much for this terrific entry to the blogathon. It was great having you aboard to celebrate Power's 100th birthday.<br /><br />I've come to the conclusion that I am not much of a Hemingway fan. Other than the John Garfield and Audie Murphy versions of "To Have and Have Not," I've never really cared for any of the film adaptions of his works. Much as Patti https://www.blogger.com/profile/12931836399684850729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-31665305767766636762014-05-05T14:56:36.047-04:002014-05-05T14:56:36.047-04:00I agree that Hemingway is difficult to translate t...I agree that Hemingway is difficult to translate to film. The only adaptation of his works that I've liked well enough to own so far is <i>To Have and Have Not</i>, and that barely qualifies as an adaptation because it's so very different from the book. More like "inspired by" the book, lol.<br /><br />And yes, Flynn definitely has a self-aware thing going on here, that he'Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-66678731151222992372014-05-05T14:52:35.443-04:002014-05-05T14:52:35.443-04:00I think it's definitely worth seeing, especial...I think it's definitely worth seeing, especially if you're a fan of any of the principals. Thanks for stopping by!Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-28394918190510207902014-05-05T14:37:04.096-04:002014-05-05T14:37:04.096-04:00One of my all time favorites and the challenges of...One of my all time favorites and the challenges of bringing Hemingway on screen seem almost daunting- his books are wonderful but the films based on them are fairly poor. The Sun Also Rises is by far (in my opinion) the best attempt so far.<br /><br />Flynn too is my favorite of the picture, though at this point he is to great extent merely playing himself.<br /><br />Still great fun!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01766688085048815242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-58920491780630876232014-05-05T13:57:54.738-04:002014-05-05T13:57:54.738-04:00I've never taken the time to see this one, bu...I've never taken the time to see this one, but as I read this, I'm wondering why. What a great cast here, and the plot sounds very interesting. I'll be hunting this one down pronto. Thanks for the inspiration!<br /><br />Clayton @ ClaytonologyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3881774.post-55342119387132709592014-05-05T12:22:57.015-04:002014-05-05T12:22:57.015-04:00I did a bit of superficial research on this while ...I did a bit of superficial research on this while writing my review, and it seems Power, Gardner, and Flynn all kept begging to have Evans replaced, but the director insisted, "The kid stays in the picture." Evans later became movie producer, and produced things like <i>The Godfather</i> and <i>Chinatown</i> and <i>The Phantom</i>! And wrote an autobiography he titled <i>The Kid StaysHamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.com